Sep 23, 2005

Career and Motherhood... My comments

I would like to have read more comments on this one... But then.
Also this is what I have written at a go, so bare with me.

When I read this article the first thought that came to my mind was a comment I heard from a very senior executive of a company while we were having a general discussion. He said "when we consider people for senior posts we prefer not to hire women because they will not be able to handle their jobs since they have to take care of their house and kids won't be giving 100% at work."
While reading this comment did it cross your mind isn't it practical? Realistic?

My first reaction(though I kept my mouth shut that time) was who gives you the right to tell me what role am I supposed to hold and where? Shouldn't I be judged like a human being on the credentials if I can satisfy the job or not? Shouldn't I have the right to choose what I want to do instead of it being decided by someone else or the society as a whole? Am I perusing my studies that one day someone will look at me and say you are not given this job because you are a women?
And hope after reading this far you haven't already formed an opinion of me that I belong to that set of people(I will not use women because lot men fall in this category too) who will give family second preference to their work, or are very ambitious. Let me point something else out. That the same attitude would be considered by some, a positive trait in men and a negative trait in women. And my question is how can giving your family a second preference be a positive trait in anyone?
Back to the point... There are plenty of people who will not think twice or maybe not think at all when they ask their wives to put there career on hold or abandon it altogether. Or it is even taken for granted to do that. And that is the attitude that gets on my nerves.
Give everyone a right to decide on his or her own. If two people think that they can both have careers and raise a family then the decision should be up to them. Not up to the society. If the woman thinks that she can give up her career to raise a family, then that needs to be appreciated. If she wants to continue her career and have a family let the society support that too. I will not give the third option of a man staying at home to raise kids. I don't think it is possible, I have never met a man who has even considered doing this and I can't envision it either. So me suggesting that will give people the right to think that I have lost my mind.
Now getting back to the article. I am surprised that the article had all quotes form women who want to put their career on the back seat. There was only one comment in the article from a women who wants to peruse her career while raising the family. Where as they have 60 to 40 ratio in the survey.

"While the changing attitudes are difficult to quantify, the shift emerges repeatedly in interviews with Ivy League students, including 138 freshman and senior females at Yale who replied to e-mail questions sent to members of two residential colleges over the last school year.
The interviews found that 85 of the students, or roughly 60 percent, said that when they had children, they planned to cut back on work or stop working entirely. About half of those women said they planned to work part time, and about half wanted to stop work for at least a few years.
Two of the women interviewed said they expected their husbands to stay home with the children while they pursued their careers. Two others said either they or their husbands would stay home, depending on whose career was furthest along."


I got the feeling that it was trying to persuade the reader by giving these one sided comments that it is the "right decision" that is to be taken. Sowmya has posted a comment that "life comes full circle" can't we get a stable balance where it can stay instead of going round and round? Also I wonder if you also meant that this was the "right choice"?

"Yet the likelihood that so many young women plan to opt out of high-powered careers presents a conundrum.
"It really does raise this question for all of us and for the country: when we work so hard to open academics and other opportunities for women, what kind of return do we expect to get for that?" said Marlyn McGrath Lewis, director of undergraduate admissions at Harvard, who served as dean for coeducation in the late 1970's and early 1980's.
It is a complicated issue and one that most schools have not addressed. The women they are counting on to lead society are likely to marry men who will make enough money to give them a real choice about whether to be full-time mothers, unlike those women who must work out of economic necessity.
It is less than clear what universities should, or could, do about it. For one, a person's expectations at age 18 are less than perfect predictors of their life choices 10 years later. And in any case, admissions officers are not likely to ask applicants whether they plan to become stay-at-home moms."


I myself do not know that answers to these questions raised here. But do stay at home moms don't have right to high quality education?

"For many feminists, it may come as a shock to hear how unbothered many young women at the nation's top schools are by the strictures of traditional roles."

Really, for one I don't think feminism is to fight against the traditional roles. It is about being given equal opportunity to decide the path of your own life without the bias attached that you are a women so you should take this path. A very strong feminist held an opinion that women should not get maternity leave. And I was appalled by that and more so because she was a very strong "feminist". Isn't it about time that we accept that women do give birth? It is not a unique case it is the situation of half the human race. Another very well educated female holds the opinion that all jobs are not to given to women. And that is not because she thinks that we are physically weak but because the society is not a safe place. Would it have been the right decision to not give "blacks" the jobs when the racism was at its height? Or was it a better solution that the mentality of people was changed and everyone got their rights in the society?

""They are still thinking of this as a private issue; they're accepting it," said Laura Wexler, a professor of American studies and women's and gender studies at Yale. "Women have been given full-time working career opportunities and encouragement with no social changes to support it."

This statement I think is the most appropriate one about the situation today. So, yes arz000n I can believe that friend of yours has made that decision. Each of us, including me, knows if the need comes it will be women who will have to put their career on hold. I will willing do it, but that to be expected out of me is outrageous.

4 comments:

Soumya said...

i agree that i have got no right to ask u or anybody or even a men to follow certain path of career ...
but on similar lines do u have right to ask me to not to differentiate? dont ur boss have a right to make his own choices... u follow wht u think right and best for u ... i follow my feelings and thinking ...

if u have right to make choices so do i ...

wht i said above is not specific to gender or carrer or motherhood, for me it applies to many decisions and choices in all our life ...

regarding choice between career and motherhood it is not me and u even to decide... it will be ur kids ... during their childhood they r the one who owns u most ... so for making a decision think abt how ur decision affects their life ... it is ur kids who will be affected most ...

not only women i have seen men also sacrificing their career for betterment of their kids ...
i believe firmly in freedom regarding choices which dont harm others but still if we call ourselves sensible and sensitive then we shud think before making choices abt those whom our choices affects ...

in this particular case it is ur kids ...

Shobhna Srivastava said...

Well I completely agree with you it is the kids, your own kid, whoes upbringing that is in consideration here. Who will decide that you can raise them? who will decide how are they to be raise? I think you will agree that it will the parents and in effect will be us. That is why I said "If two people think that they can both have careers and raise a family then the decision should be up to them." And to tell you the truth I am not at all surprised that you think that I am not considering the kids. It is what has been ingrained, a bias that if a women is talking about her career then she is surely not thinking about her kid and that is what I am fighting "the bias".

And for the question you asked "do u have right to ask me to not to differentiate?" yes I do, cause u r differntiating(discriminating is a more appropriate word) me. "dont ur boss have a right to make his own choices..." ofcourse he does but will u accept it if ur boss didn't hire you because u were an indian?
"if u have right to make choices so do i ..." I have just been talking about the right for women to have choices too. The two arn't mutually exclusive, unless one of them 'always' want all there choices to be fulfilled.

Also when I said that "I will not give the third option of a man staying at home to raise kids." I did not imply that they would be bad fathers if they cannot give up their careers. That would be the very same bias that I am fighting against. Ofcourse they make sacrfices for their kids.

But do they do that for their wives?

But honestly I do welcome comments and maybe, it will give me some more insite to the way I look at things.

Soumya said...

i never said or meant that u r not thinking of kids ... it is the last thing that i expect from a woman ... if anyhow this thing was conveyed i am sorry ...

i was just telling u the truth as seen by me ...

Shobhna Srivastava said...

That is all right even when I get started on this I think I stretch it far.